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 R. Flambard lived 1060-1128 and supported the Revolution until 1101 before going over to Beauclerc’s Counter-Revolution following the Treaty of Alton and Curthose’s rapprochement with his co-counter-revolutionist brother.
 His father was a priest of Bayeux called Thurstin.
 At the time of the Conqueror’s death in 1087, he had served the Revolution in numerous minor capacities involving the implementation of writs and the organisation of church lands (especially the vacant variety)
 When the Red came to power in 1087, Flambard entered a bloc with him and served the Revolution with unswerving loyalty, especially in pillaging certain, rich landowners in Normandy-Angleland who aimed to financiallly and politically undermine the Red in his export of The Norman Revolution to the rest of The Kingdom Of The Franks.
 Flambard witnessed 35 writs during the Red’s rule, significantly more than any other official.
 Following the Red’s seizure of Normandy for 10000 marks from Curthose when the latter joined the counter-revolutionary First Crusade in 1095-96, Flambard was appointed co-regent by the Red in Angleland [sign in to see URL] was called totius regni procurator which is equivalent to justiciar.
 In the vital, revolutionist years 1096-1100, there was no finer Norman revolutionist than [sign in to see URL] made certain that no church tenants-in-chief administered or appropriated the revenue for church lands that lay vacant. He is often accused by some historians of being an ‘asset-stripper’ which is misguided and ignores the fact that most of the revenue ultimately went to finance the export of The Norman Revolution 1058-1100 to the rest of The Kingdom Of The Franks.
 From 1087-1100, Flambard was custodian of church lands in Angleland at Ramsey, New Minster, Winchester and Canterbury.
 In the light of the acute revenue-raising crisis in Angleland, Flambard toured it regularly to raise owed taxes, especially in Devon and Cornwall in 1096.
 The Counter-Revolution of 2nd August 1100 and its aftermath, saw him imprisoned by Beauclerc under his so-called ‘Charter of Liberties’, which was nothing more than a monstrous fig-leaf to cover a punishment for his revolutionist past. He was the first recorded, political detainee of the Tower of London.

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Great posting Rob but we are more than cheesed about the asset-stripping jibe that seems to hang around Flambard and which has been used as a stick to beat him with down the years.
Let's be clear,those rich landowners he pillaged had made their money as a spin-off from the Revolution in [sign in to see URL] is also clear that many of them understood the need to export the Revolution to the remaining portions of The Frankish [sign in to see URL] when it came to coughing up they got cold feet and even had the temerity to raise resistance.
Money was needed to finance that vital historical export and if stripping those treacherous elements of their assets was the surest way of gaining the lion's share then Flambard and the Red (who authorised the seizures) were totally justified.
Indeed, the Conqueror himself had used this policy (in more favourable times it has to be observed)while balancing it with certain tax concessions to the Church (which Lanfranc headed rather than the vacillating Anselm at the time of Flambard and the Red). So,for us, this humbug term asset stripper has no merit. The expropriation of these wealthy assets made possible 1096 (Normandy) and 1100 (Aquitaine)since in both cases significant cash transactions were a burning necessity.
We would further observe with severe concern the fact Anselm's resistance was not merely that of someone turning inimical to exporting the Revolution but also more profoundly his position as head of Holy Mother Church in Angleland made his opposition a frontal asault on the other pillar of the Revolution : [sign in to see URL] message was his resistance to paying up in direct defiance of the Red sending out to the leadership of the Revolution in Normandy-Angleland and the Monks of Bec and their peripheral influence in both lands? It was clearly suggesting that what had maintained the principles of 1058 at Varaville and 1066 at Senlac was no longer the valid force. Faced with such a prospect only the strongest defence was in order.

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I have only read David Douglas'book "William the Conqueror" where the description used 'revolution' regarding the norman experience 1066 onwards is [sign in to see URL] the sense that it turned things upside down compared to the Anglo-Saxon post-King Cnut kingdom it has a certain [sign in to see URL] was a man of dubious intent in relation to the points made which historically are reasonably accurate but someone who supported William Rufus and then served his successor(Henry Beauclerc) who had successfully plotted William's removal with various nobles in and outside England and Normandy makes the rather 'virtuous' flavour references seem to be spread thinly and unenduring other than for the most limited of purposes.
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